Biden to Issue Covid Rules as 75,000 Fans Pack NFL Stadium
9 Sep 2021
BUCK: Clay and I have been worried for a while here about where this is gonna go with the Biden administration, because here is a very broad overview of the situation as it is right now. There are over 200 million Americans as of today who have been vaccinated. Cases right now are 300% higher than they were a year ago –12 months ago to the day — when there were exactly zero people vaccinated.
We know that. We also know that there were a whole lot of infections in the wintertime last year. The high at the absolute peak was in January of — December-January period of 2020. So there’s a lot of natural immunity out there. Clay, how is it that tonight we have a Biden speech where they’re going to essentially tell us:
“The federal government is going to ram more Fauciism down our throats,” when they don’t even attempt to explain how we could have more natural immunity, 200 million doses of vaccine — or full vaccination — already in the population, and 300% more cases? And some places even having record hospitalization! Do they even have an answer?
CLAY: It is the essence of the questions that should be asked of the Biden administration and Dr. Fauci, if our media did a good job of asking questions that matter. I mean, you got right to the essence of what the data is telling us. And the ultimate test… I think this is gonna be a fascinating window, Buck, because Biden is speaking at 5 o’clock Eastern, right?
He’s gonna lay out all these new regulations, more requirements for federal employees, contractors, mandates as much as he can; encouraging private industry to mandate as well. And then this is gonna be interesting, Buck, because you’re gonna have Biden talk at 5 and basically say, “Hey, everything is a disaster with covid and we gotta blame everybody who’s not getting vaccinated.”
And then a couple of hours later you’re gonna have the NFL kicking off down the Tampa, Ron DeSantis’ backyard, and you are gonna have the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Dallas Cowboys playing, and there’s gonna be 75,000 fans — biggest and first sellout crowd in the NFL since the Super Bowl in 2020, right? All the way back then.
And there’s gonna be this fascinating dichotomy where you’re gonna have a lot of American sports fans saying, “Hey, it’s time to get on with our life,” and you’re gonna have the federal government and Joe Biden hectoring everyone and saying, “Hey, you can’t get on with your life because of covid right now,” and that dichotomy, we saw it, Buck, with college football.
Fauci and all the Fauciites are furious at college football fans. I think the NFL as the bigger production is gonna put this thing on steroids and you’re gonna have these two conflicting images: Biden saying, “Hey, hide in your basements, you’re not safe,” and then you’re gonna have college football and these NFL fans for the first time ever saying, “Hey, it’s time to get back to normal,” and I’m gonna love to see how this is covered.
BUCK: They’re not even hiding anymore, Clay, that their goal here is to make every man, woman, and child in the country get the shot, and they want to make people get the shot at a time when we also know that it is not the end.
BUCK: It’s not like it was over. Remember that was the pitch in April and May.
BUCK: Get the shot and you’re done. It is absolutely not the case. No person will you tell you, “Get the shot and you’re done anymore.” Not based on the Fauciite logic. They’re not even dealing with that reality. They just want to force people. You mentioned the federal government has over two million employees.
CLAY: That’s right.
BUCK: I used to be a federal government employee. So, you know, back in my old CIA days, you know, if we would fast-forward and then the pandemic had happened, I would have had the choice, “Okay. I served my country in a couple war zones for the CIA. Now, I’ve been in 10 or 15 years; I’m gonna lose my job,” even if I have natural immunity from the virus.
Never mind that it’s a conscience, I think, violation for those who have no immunity, you know, no immunity, no antibodies, whatever, but on top of that, people with natural immunity, there’s no exemption, no exceptions at all.
BUCK: The federal government is expected to make everyone who works for it get the shot. That’s what Biden’s gonna say tonight. And then — and this is the piece that I’ve been warning about — they’re just going to find every point of leverage coercion that they have at the state level where Democrats are in charge.
At the local level, wherever possible, they’re gonna rely on activist judges, and the private sector. Biden/the federal government has a lot of carrots and sticks when it comes to private corporations, and they’re gonna try to get some of the biggest companies in America to say, “You get the shot or you’re fired. Full stop.”
CLAY: There’s two things that I want to unpack that you just said that I think is really good. First of all, if everybody in America who is 12 and older had the vaccine, covid’s still not going away. Right? And that is where I think the Biden administration is failing in terms of their messaging because all of people out there…
Look, 75% of people who are 18 and over have already gotten one shot. We were told back in May, “Hey, get the shot; you’ll never have to wear a mask anywhere again,” and also we were told, “If we have 70% by July 4th, effectively, this thing will be over.” Well, we didn’t hit it by July 4th, but here we are September 8th or whatever the heck it is.
And we have ended up with 75% of all 18-and-ups who have gotten the shot. And for 12-and-up, it’s 72%. I believe those are the most recent numbers. Other thing here, Buck. I think the private industry part of this is where Biden is really going to lien on everybody. I was out last night at an event with people who work in radio, local radio, and they were… I’ll just say it.
They work at Cumulus, which is a major national radio company. They have mandated that every single Cumulus employee get the vaccine. Every single one of them. The CEO came out and said it, and I think there are a lot of people out there working at companies in our industry. Certainly if it’s happening here, it’s happening all over this country.
Where people who are in private industries not connected at all to the federal government are being told, “Get the vaccine or you lose your job.” That’s what Biden is going to try to do. He’s gonna try to use the bully pulpit of the presidency to lean on everybody out there who has a company to be making these vaccine mandates.
BUCK: And just, everyone needs to understand, when they say, “Oh, but, you know, the private sector, the private sector!” First of all, the private sector can’t do whatever it wants in a million different ways we could all sit here and discuss.
BUCK: Think of all the regulations on private companies.
CLAY: “It’s a private company!” There’s all sorts of restrictions on private companies.
BUCK: “Oh, I don’t want Big Government in my private company!”
BUCK: There are tons of regulations that affect private companies: workplace, workplace environment, hostile environment, diversity-inclusion stuff. There’s all these different rules that already exist, and now here we are, we’re starting is to see I think people realizing that unless there are individual rights protected by government here, everyone’s gonna start getting steamrolled.
Oh, you think your local public school has got a decent board? Oh, well, the Department of Education’s got a different feeling on that one. You think that the company that you work for is gonna protect your rights? Well, maybe — Clay, you’re a lawyer — what if they don’t create any protections from liability for companies?
CLAY: This is what you got into with NOAA as well right?
BUCK: But they can sue, right?
CLAY: Yeah, yeah.
BUCK: Now you’re in a situation where if a company is gonna be liable for somebody who gets sick and died from covid if they don’t have a vax mandate. We haven’t even tested some of these things, you’re gonna see everybody getting it, and that’s why it’s interesting. Ron DeSantis, if I may… Now, this is from a week ago but we haven’t played it yet for everybody.
He is saying… I don’t know. He kind of sounds like somebody else when he talks about protecting. Government’s role is not to say, “Oh, I want a small government. Government’s role is to protect individual freedom and liberality with the Constitution as its primary shield for that.” Here’s from a week ago, DeSantis.
DESANTIS: Today, my philosophy is: As governor, my job is to protect your individual freedom. My job is not to protect corporate freedom. That is not what I’m here for. I mean, we have a good business climate. We have everything. But this idea that businesses can just do whatever they want and invade your privacy and do all that?
No, I’m not signing up for that. I’m signing up for protecting your freedom and making sure we have a society in Florida where people can make the best decisions for themselves and for their families. And that’s what we’re doing by protecting against these mandates and making sure that that’s done based on what people believe is best for them and their families.
BUCK: I’m glad that Governor DeSantis is not bullied around by corporate interests in his state. There’s at least some hope, Clay. There’s some encouragement here for those of us who don’t want to be part of the steamroller. New York’s already been hit with it, folks. We’re done here. They’re coming for you elsewhere in the country, though. That’s the point.
CLAY: And I think what we need to discuss more, too, about this Buck — and I want to keep hammering this. There’s this false ideal that if 100% of people were vaccinated, this thing would go away, right? For a long time, the past 18 months, there’s always been a new villain right? Well, if everybody just wore their masks. Well, if everybody just stayed home and locked down harder.
Well, if schools were shut down. Well, if this state would not allow people to be on the beaches, if they would shut down parks. All of these things that have been required have all failed, right? And what is going to fail — and I hate to say it, but this is what the data reflects — is, we are being sold a bill of goods, which is, “If everybody was vaccinated, covid would go away.” We’re at 75% vaccinations already, Buck, and covid’s not going away.
BUCK: Going away?
CLAY: It’s here forever.
BUCK: It’s three times worse than it was a year ago!
CLAY: Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. So the argument that is gonna be made by Joe Biden… They keep trying to say, “Oh, we only have a pandemic of the unvaccinated.” That’s not true. That’s not true at all. And again, looking at the data is important here, and recognizing, “What’s the next step,” even if 100% of people are vaccinated?
BUCK: There are two fundamental fallacies that coincide in all of this and, obviously, Clay we’re both fired up about this. We’ll come back in this in a second. One, is that the people making the decisions really know what they’re doing. And two, the people who don’t listen to the people who have been making all these decisions are the problem.
CLAY: (chuckles) Yes.
BUCK: Both of those things are false.
CLAY: We were talking about this after the show yesterday, CNN’s got up a headline, “Children hospitalizations, pediatric dangers,” everything else. This stat blew my mind. Buck, more kids have been shot in Chicago this year than have died with covid in the country. Think about that stat for a minute. More kids shot in Chicago this year — in Chicago alone — than have died with covid in the entire country. That’s Joe Kinsey, a story that he’s got up with on OutKick right now. I was reading that, and I was like, “Wow, this is unbelievable.”
BUCK: This is one of the areas where I will say I actually have underestimated the degree of ignorance, and I’ve dug into this more. When you mentioned that there are parents — because I talked to Matt Walsh of The Daily Wire about it as well offline. I talked to other people — my friend here Karol Markowicz who does great work for the New York Post.
She’s been a total freedom advocate during the craziest periods of the lockdowns here. And whenever I talk to them about this they say, “No, there really are a lot of parents…” I mean, it’s not a majority, but there are a lot of parents who think their kids are gonna get covid and die.
CLAY: They’re terrified of covid.
BUCK: And this is pure disinformation from CNN running headlines about, “Pediatric hospitalizations way up!” Well, if they’re way up from, you know, 50 to 70, I mean, this is not a massive public health crisis by any stretch of the imagination. But people see the headline, they see the way it’s being manipulated, and parents are terrified.
CLAY: That’s right.
BUCK: I mean, Clay, you got kids. I don’t. It’s on parents, right? It’s young… You want to kind of YOLO. You want to go out there and go to big events or super she reads or whatever they’re calling it — also known as “living your life” — that’s on you, right?
BUCK: But when you’re making decisions for your kids as a parent that’s a whole other level of responsibility and if you’ve got bad information because of all the Fauciites?
CLAY: And you have your fears being played upon and Jen Psaki, let’s play this, like, how much are your lives gonna change, basically, she was asked. And she gave kind of a snide remark.
PSAKI: There will be new steps the president announces tomorrow, absolutely.
REPORTER: How will those new steps influence the average American’s day-to-day life? Should we expect any new mitigation, recommendations as an example?
PSAKI: It depends on if you’re vaccinated or not.
CLAY: Ohhhh! If you’re vaccinated, the world is your oyster! You’ll never have to worry about the anything.
BUCK: It depends on are you like an idiot savage or a really good, smart person who listens to Fauci? That’s basically what she’s saying.
CLAY: Yeah, remember Jen Psaki — and we teed off on her for this, too. She’s a parent. I think she has a kindergartener, and she tried to terrify everybody out there by saying, “Oh, I would be terrified if my kids were going to school and they weren’t wearing masks,” even though masks don’t work in schools as the data reflects and even though kids are not under danger. Again, you can go read that stat about Chicago. Think about that: More kids shot in Chicago, Buck, than have actually died of covid this year.
BUCK: It's all so arbitrary, and they pretend it's not judgment calls when it clearly is.
BUCK: I've seen some people trying to politicize, in some way, the fact that he was double vaccinated.
CLAY: I was on talking about the importance of the First Amendment and why freedom of speech mattered in media circles.
CLAY: Man, we are making a big difference in the way that we are talking, and even other media are starting to follow our lead.
CLAY: I wonder what it’s like — and I hope I never know, and some people might say it’s already happened — to be past your mental faculties and end up with a big job.